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Old 10-19-2004, 05:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Roll Call.

just wanted to see who was a cop and where everyone is stationed ?

I'm A1C Eckles stationed at Aviano AB Italy been in for 10months and loving every min. I'm from Ca.
 
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Roll Call.

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I'm a SSgt from Hickam AFB. Crosstraining to 3C0 (comm), if I don't get it I'll still reenlist as SF. I don't mind SF, just want something new.

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Old 10-19-2004, 10:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Roll Call.

I am a SSgt stationed at Lajes, or AB#4 as the Portuguese refer to THEIR base. I am from Ky. I love being a cop and I can't wait, I SAY AGAIN can't wait to leave.
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Re: Roll Call.

welcome to the forums.


Oh and Braezin808 by SF i assume you are reffering to security forces, not special forces, you may want to specify on this forum!

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Re: Roll Call.

Considering we're in the Security Forces forum and my profile, I'm sure that much is obvious.

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Old 10-20-2004, 03:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Roll Call.

That's funny

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Old 10-21-2004, 04:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Roll Call.

I"m a police officer on the civilian side.. Always found it curious that AF SF are the only MP types who routinely refer to themselves as "cops". Not trying to be disrespectful, but civilian LE tends to be pretty opinionated about "cop" referring to municipal police officers, and MP work being a very different thing altogether. MP's I've met on the USMC and Army side of things always refer to themselves as "MP's". Is "cop" common in Air Force slang?


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Old 10-21-2004, 03:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Roll Call.

Yes it is common to call SF "Cops" we don’t have MP's like army were called Security Police "SP" but they did away with that when they merged the LE side with the Security Side.

I have some friends who went to 823rd from tech school. they are down range now.
 
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I"m a police officer on the civilian side.. Always found it curious that AF SF are the only MP types who routinely refer to themselves as "cops". Not trying to be disrespectful, but civilian LE tends to be pretty opinionated about "cop" referring to municipal police officers, and MP work being a very different thing altogether. MP's I've met on the USMC and Army side of things always refer to themselves as "MP's". Is "cop" common in Air Force slang?
I'm sure what you mean by pretty opinionated. Do you mean they don't like it when they are called cops? Or when other people are called cops?

If its the latter, than I really couldn't care less. No we are not the same as regular civilian police officers, we are a seperate law enforcement agency. Regardless of what those opinionated cops think, military law enforcement duty is quite comparable to our civilian counterparts. The training available to some bases, the incidents encountered. While obviously a military law enforcement officer isn't going to come across the volume of serious events a civilian cop would, I think "cop" is quite fitting in the enviroment we are in.

BTW, I don't call myself a "cop" to civilians. I say "Air Force MP" or "Air Force Cop" if they don't know what Security Forces is. Cop is used amongst the AIr Force environ.

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Old 10-22-2004, 07:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Roll Call.

I've always found it to be pretty split, some of my civilian LE friends, Actually most refer to me as an ex-cop. They draw no distinction between Military LE and Civilian. Even though I RARELY did LE missions.
 
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Re: Roll Call.

As I mentioned in my original post, no disrespect was intended. Some was obviously taken, however, given the defensive nature of Braezin's reply. To borrow a quote from him, "I really couldn't care less." I asked a simple question and explained the background that led me to ask it. If you have a complex about that, let me know.
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If by complex, you mean sick of people who have no idea what you do downplaying what you do, then yes. However, I'm sorry for getting defensive, it seemed like you were also questioning the legitimacy of us using the term "cop". Again, my apologies.

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