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Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
By John Milburn
Associated Press FORT RILEY, Kan. — Joseph Powers was a typical Army brat. Born at Fort Knox, Ky., he moved as his father transferred from post to post in Georgia and the Carolinas until, he says, he covered most of the South. Such constant address changes are well-known for taking a toll on soldiers and their families. Now 37, Powers is a first sergeant, a medic with the 1st Battalion, 28th Infantry and a potential symbol of a new Army policy aimed at allowing Powers and soldiers with families to focus on moving troops and equipment for air assaults instead of loading furniture into the back of a rental truck. Pvt. Domingo Tomas (front) and other soldiers from A Company, 1st Battalion, 28th Infantry Regiment, A load their machine guns with blanks during a training exercise at Fort Riley, Kan., on April 19. Soldiers in the unit will stay together longer and move less often as they incorporate a new policy designed to make units more stable. — Charlie Riedel / AP Photo “It’s kind of tough on kids being moved around at young ages. That’s when they are imprinting, when they are young,” Powers said, recalling his mobile youth. “Typically, you kind of move to a new place and you are apprehensive who you will talk with until someone in the community comes out.” Called “unit force stability,” the new policy creates three-year life cycles for units — forming, training, deploying and returning them to the same post. The change also increases the likelihood that even if a soldier left a particular unit, he or she could transfer within the same post — bringing some stability to what had been the traditional, mobile military family. The change already has taken place in some units but not all. The first unit to see the change was the 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team stationed at Fort Wainwright, Alaska, in October 2003. That unit is completing a year in Iraq and will begin a new life cycle in December. It’s part of larger changes for the Army, which must cope with conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan while juggling staff as a result of base closings and division moves from Europe back to the U.S. And although the policy may help individual soldiers and their families, it is intended to make the Army stronger. “We face the challenge of changing the Army’s personnel culture from an individual-centric Army to a unit-centric Army and balancing this with soldier leader development needs,” said Lt. Col. Cheryl Morman, deputy chief of staff for operations with the Army Human Resources Command. “It has not gone perfectly, but we are making progress and continue to refine it and obtain lessons learned as we transform more units.” A report last fall by the Rand Corp., a Washington, D.C. think tank, said the policy could negatively affect the Army’s ability to deploy for combat. For example, it said, units in the early stages of their life cycle may not have enough personnel or equipment to be called to duty, because personnel from the previous would have moved on. Pushing the burden to other units that may have recently come out of the fight could prove difficult. “Generally, to sustain the life cycle program, it would be desirable to keep units at home for 18 months or longer,” the report concluded, though it added that after a first deployment, the time a unit rests before deploying again could be shortened, if necessary. But at Fort Riley, Lt. Col. Patrick Frank, who commands the 1st Battalion, 28th Infantry, said allowing soldiers and officers to stay put for at least three years is a welcome change. He previously was on the staff of the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Ky., and did a stint at Fort Drum, N.Y. “From a military perspective, it is a great thing, with stability and leadership, from the platoon all the way to the top,” Frank said. “As we develop proficiency, we will maintain that better than we did under the legacy system.” Under that system, soldiers and officers moved constantly through a unit, with replacements coming in as officers changed command and soldiers moved up in leadership or left the Army. With the life-cycle policy, soldiers are with a unit for three years, with the goal of no more than one year deployed. Soldiers feel more prepared for missions because they are familiar with unit leaders, their operations and their working environment, Morman said. The Black Lions are among the newest tenants at Fort Riley, part of the 4th Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division. The division’s headquarters arrives this summer after 11 years in Germany, part of the Pentagon’s repositioning of forces. The effect on families could be big. Children’s education and socialization will be more stable. Spouses will have better job opportunities and more chances at promotions if employers know they are more likely to stick around. “There are huge opportunities for families in that they could spend six to seven years in a community,” Frank said. Command Sgt. Maj. Clifford Dockter likes the change, having joined the Army in 1981 and been stationed at posts in Colorado, Germany, Kansas, Alaska and elsewhere. “The Army really didn’t want (noncommissioned officers) and officers to be at one installation too long,” said Dockter. “It’s changed into now where the Army has realized that a large, very important part of the Army is its married soldiers.” Army Times -Chief Muppet |
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
It's on a trial basis here at Drum - our Unit's actually locked in now for six years - and many of us are in favor...Sure hate to see my dishes and TV's getting broke everytime we have to pack up and move.
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
It definately helps me with the "are we going to have to move around alot" questions. At least now I can say, maybe not.
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
The same thing is happening over here with arms plotting soon to be a thing of the past
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
I have to say though, as a military "brat" moving around didn't really affect me all that much. I learned to make friends easily, and adapt to new places. Of course, I still get an "itch" to move about every 3 years...
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
lifecycle sucks... especially when it keeps you from re-enlisting to PCS somewhere else
and it's only 3 years spitfire not 6 They were tossing the lifecycle idea around between 2 and 3 years and decided on 3 to allow for proper training, schooling, deployment, redeployement, and a "reset" phase where new folks come in and others leave before the lifecycle starts anew.-JR |
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
However, I would like to add from what I have been briefed, you may be eligible for back to back tours with the same unit, thus extending your stay to 6 years. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't even have a unit yet so I could be acting on old info.
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
Depends on the length of your enlistment honestly and wether or not you come down on orders during the reset phase of the lifecycle. The possibility is there but then again it always have been. My first squadleader spent 5 1/2 years in the same company before he was sent to another company, still same battalion though and its not uncommon, while others get moved every 2-3 yrs. luck of the draw i guess
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
Anyone know if the the Corps is considering something like this? The longest I was ever at one duty station at one time was a little over 3.5 years. We called it "homesteading" if you were at any one station longer than that and it used to be Marine Corps policy not to let it happen.
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Re: Soldiers, families welcome chance to stay put
As far as I know the Corps isnt, I read something once that it was mor efeasable for them not to?
The army actually initially had an idea called "homebasing" where you would be assigned a homestation for a term of 7 years. Say you came down on orders for Korea, you'd do your year (since its a hardship tour) your family would say at say...Benning, and when your tour in Korea was over you would report back to Benning with your family. Easier on the family, less moving, easier on the soldier and Army. Now they're just going to lifecycle. -JR |
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