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Hi. I am new here, so I hope I don't do anything to make anyone mad. I was wanting to find out about something. Is it normal and usual for a person with a RIP contract to make it to RIP, only to be cut based upon where he is standing in a line. The person in question was told he passed APFT. Then he was cut along with just about everyone else not standing in the first three positions of each line. Exceptions were made for several people who did not pass APFT and one in particular will get a retest. Is this the usual way a class is determined? If he has a contract, doesn't that at least keep him at RIP until he fails a test? Can someone enlighten me?

Hello,
Dealing with military contracts myself, I have read quite a few of them. You need to read the fine print and find out if any appendices exist that go along with the contract. Most times is that an appendix might include a statement of contractual guarantee if and only if certain guidelines are met. Otherwise if the contract was signed for a GUARANTEED position in RIP and no violations have occured against the contract, you can contest that with whomever is doing the processing. I hope this helps, be sure to read the fine print.

LCpl Ulrich
USMC

[Ram0528]

I'm not a Ranger, nor I have been to RIP. That being said, the contract guarantees you a chance to go through RIP(selection process for aspiring Rangers). After that, it is up to the cadre to decide if you meet the Ranger standards. If the individual is saying that he was cut b/c of where he was standing in line, there may be more to the story than he is letting on.

We have a couple of Rangers on this site, maybe they will give you a better answer. I'm sure though, there answer will be more blunt than mine.

[Rusty24]

Covert would be the best one to answer this.

Thank you for your answer.

[USMCRET6391]

I am not a Ranger, nor I have I been in the Army for that matter, but after 24 years in the Marine Corps my first reaction to "I got cut because I was standing in the wrong place in line" is that it is an excuse for not meeting the standards. There is more to this than someone is letting on.

[nightfighter 6]

Originally Posted by mamabear

Hi. I am new here, so I hope I don't do anything to make anyone mad. I was wanting to find out about something. Is it normal and usual for a person with a RIP contract to make it to RIP, only to be cut based upon where he is standing in a line. The person in question was told he passed APFT. Then he was cut along with just about everyone else not standing in the first three positions of each line. Exceptions were made for several people who did not pass APFT and one in particular will get a retest. Is this the usual way a class is determined? If he has a contract, doesn't that at least keep him at RIP until he fails a test? Can someone enlighten me?

People are not dropped from RIP based on where they stand in a line. Anyone that tells you that is crazy. This is the typical BS the quitters tell their parents/wives /girlfriends because they are ashamed of being a quitter. It is not uncommon for 65-70% of a course to quit. The graduation rate is at times as low as 10%. If someone quits or fails to meet the standards for graduation, their records are reviewed by the RIP Cadre. Some students, depending upon a variety of conditions, are offered the chance to recycle into the next class. The RIP Cadre have a very specific set of rules they must follow in dealing with students and their evaluation as potential members of the 75th Ranger Regiment. They simply do not operate that way you described. More than likely, the person you described above is using this story to save face.

[Signal Ranger]

Originally Posted by nightfighter 6

People are not dropped from RIP based on where they stand in a line. Anyone that tells you that is crazy. This is the typical BS the quitters tell their parents/wives /girlfriends because they are ashamed of being a quitter. It is not uncommon for 65-70% of a course to quit. The graduation rate is at times as low as 10%. If someone quits or fails to meet the standards for graduation, their records are reviewed by the RIP Cadre. Some students, depending upon a variety of conditions, are offered the chance to recycle into the next class. The RIP Cadre have a very specific set of rules they must follow in dealing with students and their evaluation as potential members of the 75th Ranger Regiment. They simply do not operate that way you described. More than likely, the person you described above is using this story to save face.

when i was in RIP...a guy got cut because a stupid MP said he was running away from him...he was good dude..would have made a good ranger.