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Old 09-05-2004, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Officers?

Can officers attend sniper school? Or is that strictly for enlisted men and women only? Also, if someone went to sniper school, they don't have to be a sniper afterwards, correct?
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Old 09-05-2004, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Re: Officers?

Can women, be snipers? I thought that was considered combat duty?

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Old 09-05-2004, 11:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Officers?

1. I'm going to go with my gut on this one and say that women are NOT allowed to attend sniper school. JR and Covert please correct this if I'm wrong.

2. Officers don't go to sniper school. Officers are in the Army to do planning and leadership. What type of a leader goes out and leads one other person (maybe) for weeks on end in the middle of nowhere cut off from the outside world? Not only that, but there really aren't platoons/companys composed completely of snipers that need to train to fight as a platoon/company.


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Old 09-06-2004, 12:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Officers?

Isnt the CO of Sniper School an Officer and a qualified Sniper? I would think if you are going to be in charge of a school you should know what is going on under your command.

And as far as I know...if you are attending Sniper School then more then likely you are already in either a DM or Sniper position anyway and just need the formal training.
 
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Old 09-10-2004, 09:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Officers?

Must be in the grade of E3 thru E7. (WAIVERABLE)

Students must be CMF 11B, 11M or in the CMF 18 series. (NON-WAIVERABLE)

That means no women, and iffy on the officers, I don't know what kind of waiver you would need to get out of the E-3 - E7 requirement.

More info at: http://www.specialoperations.com/Sch...er/Default.htm


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Old 09-10-2004, 09:36 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Re: Officers?

yeah, "O"s can attend Sniper School. No, upon graduation Sniper qualified soldiers do not HAVE to be snipers in their unit.


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Old 09-25-2004, 04:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Officers?

O's can not attend sniper school (at least not marine sniper school, best in the world ooh rah) The officer in charge of snipers in a unit is an intel officer, and No No No No No women can not be snipers it is a combat duty and snipers are in an infantry company, anyone that is attached to the grunts has to be a male. Semper Fi


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Old 09-29-2004, 04:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Officers?

Alright I know I'm gonna get a world of sh*t from the Army and Marines but here goes....

The Air Force runs a Sniper/Countersniper course at Camp Robinson in AR. Women can attend, they actually list the first female graduate in the Women's heritage page at Af.mil.

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Old 10-11-2004, 02:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Officers?

I shall now begin....Wow a women sniper thats a great idea, since they cant hold combat MOS's Im sure that sniper training is really going to pay off as soon as the get their period and decide to climb a clock tower. Thank you and good night.

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Damn, how do you really feel Marine? lol.

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Old 10-11-2004, 07:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I shall now begin....Wow a women sniper thats a great idea, since they cant hold combat MOS's Im sure that sniper training is really going to pay off as soon as the get their period and decide to climb a clock tower. Thank you and good night.

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BTW Here are the Marine Scout Sniper School requirements

A. PFC-GYSGT WITH THE O3XX MOS

B. 1 YEAR ACTIVE DUTY REMAINING UPON COMPLETION.

C. DEPLOYABLE WITH UNIT

D. WILL BE REQUIRED SCORE A 1ST CLASS ON PFT DURING CHECK-IN

E. NO NJP IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS

F. NO DRUG OFFENSES

I. CURRENT EXPERT WITH M16A2 SERVICE RIFLE.

J. STUDENTS FREE OF ALL MEDICAL, DENTAL, AND PERSONAL PROBLEMS.

K. STUDENTS SUBJECT TO URINALYSIS TESTING.

L. NORMAL COLOR VISION, CORRECTABLE TO 20/20

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Re: Officers?

Great response, 0311.. I'm still cracking up several minutes later.

As for the sniper/countersniper school...A-hem... I'm fairly certain that's for MP types, and is a far cry from the sniper schools the Army and Marines send carefully selected infantrymen through. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.


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Re: Officers?

Could be interesting to know that during the Yom Kippur war in the '70s the Egyptian Army had a unit of snipers entirely formed by ladies.

They were the highest kill ratio unit fielded by this Army in that war.

Also the Russian Army had some of their best snipers that just happened to be female.

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