SFOD-D flash - Page 2

Field_Sailor · 01-28-2005, 08:09 PM

Call me naive, but I was under the impression that Delta wore an equivalent of the Ranger or SF (Green Beret)'s "distinguishing devices." Goes to the whole "doesn't exist" aura. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Rusty24 · 01-29-2005, 01:21 AM

I will say this. Not all the guys in Delta are RANGER or SF tabbed. Not all guys are Army either. That flash that you posted SR goes with the shoulder patch that you posted earlier.

I guess the only way to show ALL of the SF flashes is to go out to MacKall and take a picture of the "Boards". Every SF flash is out there. However I am not planning a field trip out there anytime soon.

**ScreaminChief** · 01-29-2005, 02:28 AM

The patch shown before was the USASOC, (Special Operations Command) patch. It is the only official thing I have ever seen worn by a Delta operator, and that was on Class A's. I'm told that they dress pretty much however they want. They don't look like soldiers, other than their obvious fitness. Longer hair and facial hair is common, even encouraged. To my knowledge, they don't wear patches on their bdu's and I doubt they wear bdu's or dcu's much except when they are training. Then they would be wearing soft caps or boonie hats. I doubt if they even wear a beret, except maybe in dress uniform, and I've never been able to glimpse one to see what color it is or what flash it would have. What you have to remember is because of their job, they don't want to be recognized. Standing out is a bad thing.

RFleischman · 01-31-2005, 09:35 AM

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If a Delta operative has Served in either A. The Ranger Battalions or B. A Special Forces group, he is permitted to wear that Beret with the "Delta Flash that says "Sine Pari" (Without equal). Second of all, that is the novelty patch. They wear this http://www.flyingtigerssurplus.com/...hbgid-4266.html with the red airborne tab above it for the dress uniform, and a subdued version for the everyday uniform.

That is the patch for the 160th SOAR

01-31-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty24

Nice reply SR-25 but that is a shoulder patch and to caveat that, the units that support the 3rd and 7th SFG at Braggg wear the same thing.

I think the question is ........ simply put, does the Delta Force Group have their own flash that will distinguish them in a crowd.

I can walk down any sidewalk on Bragg and no only tell you what unit the guy is from, but the associated battalion as well.

Yes that was a good reply SR-25, because it was correct. Delta wears the USASOC unit patch and corresponding beret flash. And to correct what was said earlier, ALL of the operators in Delta ARE in the Army. Now members of other SOF can sometimes cross-train or pull TDY with Delta, but to undergo selection and the OTC(Operator Training Course) you must enlist, and be at least an E-4 in the Army, along with meeting all the other criteria. I know a few former Marine Force Recon guys and Navy SEALs and one PJ who joined the Army just to try out for Delta. From the way this guy is typing he doesn't sound like an E-6 in the Army. If he is, his lack of knowledge about his own branch of service is pathetic. I know he shouldn't be required to know about OD-D, but he should at least know that Special Forces are the guys with the green berets, and not a different unit. Oh well. HOOAH

Rusty24 · 01-31-2005, 05:37 PM

I can tell you for a fact that some of the guys in WallyWorld that are with the teams are NOT in the Army. Some are not even in the big four (services) either. I have gone out on the range to assist these guys at Bragg and there are even a few that could pass as your grandfather.

Ever heard of the 24th. If you have, then you would know what I am talking about.

01-31-2005, 07:49 PM

Like I said, you can pull a tour with Delta from another SOF unit. But to undergo selection and the OTC you have to enlist in the Army, I can tell you that for a fact. If it were not so then why would SOF troops from other branches join the Army and in the case of the Navy and Air Force guys, go to basic training all over again just to try out for Delta? The Delta selection requirements are not classified information, as a matter of fact they were advertising on AKO a few months ago.

02-02-2005, 03:18 PM

Well, well , well.. according to recongrunt or whatever his name is I am required to know everythong about my branch of service. If everyone knew everything about their branch of service there would not be forums such as this one. Those whom paticipate in such forum(s) do so on their free will and the majority of us try to help each other to the best of our knowledge without passing judgement or questioning each others service or being a dick. To all those who have answered my query thank you it is appreciated.

Field_Sailor · 02-02-2005, 04:16 PM

Recongrunt, with all due respect to you, you are wrong.

Field_Sailor · 02-02-2005, 04:26 PM

The reason I said you are wrong is this...

By the nature of their job, they employ personnel from within other servieces and I think this is what most of the people here are saying. Let's face it, The only people who really know are those Operators. They can't really speak up now can they. IF someone wants to know, contact a SF unit, and inquire. My Opinion.

As a side:

There are several counter-terror units that operate inside and out of the States. LE and DOD.

RFleischman · 02-02-2005, 09:28 PM

all i know is someday i wanna be a D-Boy!!

02-02-2005, 09:50 PM

You're right guys, I have noooo idea what I'm talking about. Even though that statement about employing members of other services was pretty much covered when I said "you can serve a tour with delta from another SOF unit." That's ok. I'm sure you guys have a lot more experience with "those" guys than I do. I was just offering some information that I know for a fact, but since you guys seem to "know that I am wrong" when you admit that you don't really know, that's ok. I'll just leave this thread to those of you who "can't really speak for those guys" but somehow know enough to tell me that "you are wrong." Have a good one.

02-02-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by field_sailor

Recongrunt, with all due respect to you, you are wrong.

Now FieldSailor, you'll have to excuse the frustration in my last post, but you must realize that the above quote is a mighty bold statement from someone who admits they don't know the answer and at the same time, has no idea where my information is coming from. I promise you that I will not give any information or advice to anyone that I don't know for a fact, firsthand, because that would not be fair to anybody. Now, the information I gave is accurate and current, this I know firsthand. And it is not classified information. All you have to do is read "Inside Delta Force" by CSM Haney, check AKO(Army Knowledge Online) when Delta is recruiting there, or just ask one of the many Navy SEALs, Marine Force RECON guys, or Air Force PJs who have joined the Army so that they could undergo selection. I am not trying to cause an argument here, because I respect all of you who are also serving our country and I firmly believe that we are one team. I am just defending my integrity and what I know to be true. In closing, I would like to echo the thoughts of previous posters in my curiosity as to why the author is so interested in Delta's distinctive insignia(or lack thereof). I am not going to call the guy a troll or a poser b/c I just don't know, but it is suspicious. And to the author, if you're not a troll or a poser I offer my most sincere apologies but you must realize that guys ask similar questions all the time in order to impersonate certain servicemembers and you just can't be sure when you're on the internet. HOOAH

Field_Sailor · 02-03-2005, 07:54 AM

I was under the impression I clearded that up. Anyway, my point is this, for Navy guys if they have their own CT team then why would they get out, join the Army, to become part of Delta. Also, why would they do that if they can serve a tour with them, without being one of them?