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Old 01-28-2006, 04:36 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

A senior Hamas leader has rejected demands that it renounce violence to prevent aid cuts for the Palestinian Authority. President Bush has warned that US aid to the Palestinian Authority may be cut unless Hamas renounced violence and stopped calling for Israel's destruction. What is your view on how the world should deal with Hamas? Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

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Old 01-28-2006, 05:31 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Re: Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

Any consideration given to the "camp" palestinians on any issue is just feeding the enemy and assisting them in their efforts to destroy Isreal and, in their deluded dreams, the US.

These are, without exception, human scum and should simply be removed from the gene pool, completely.

Any seeming cooperation from any of the "camp" palestinians will be a lie designed to gain ground or avoid/delay attack with the end goal of improving their offensive capabilities.

It is, actually, that black and white, that simple.

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Old 01-29-2006, 07:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

negotiate and it will negate everything the Israeli's have done thus far. It will also give Hamas a foothold to get the world to see them as a "Legitimate" power.
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Re: Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

Hamas must now grow.

Either they stand up to the reality of politics or they should recognise their incapacity of operating in the world's reality.

If they do, then negotiations could be a possibility.

Hamas is not a single reality, many composite groups take part in the makeup.

One oltransist is not the one and only representative and policymaker.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

Hooked on the horns of a dilemma aren't we? We want to "Foster Democracy" in the mid east and now the wrong side has won a democratic election. Perhaps rather than worrying about Hamas, we should be taking a good hard look at our policies to wards the Palestinians and how they led up to this little debacle. Be careful what you wish for you just might get it.

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Re: Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

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Hooked on the horns of a dilemma aren't we? We want to "Foster Democracy" in the mid east and now the wrong side has won a democratic election. .
My words exactly.
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Hooked on the horns of a dilemma aren't we? We want to "Foster Democracy" in the mid east and now the wrong side has won a democratic election. Perhaps rather than worrying about Hamas, we should be taking a good hard look at our policies to wards the Palestinians and how they led up to this little debacle. Be careful what you wish for you just might get it.

The way I see it is this. This was an election. It is only a surpise to those that dont keep track. No one of any moderation or leadership ability has been allowed to survive past young adulthood. Anyone that demonstrates any ability to question the party line is identifed in the school system, accused of being a spy for the jews and executed.

That's been the process for a couple decades now.

So, the human garbage that is left has expressed it's will through elections. Good. Fine and good.

Only the simple or the thouroughly compromised can look at the actual history of the camp palestinians and not believe that their full, total and complete extermination is not a pre-requisite to any peace in the middle east.

Those scumbags have stepped up and picked their poison...good. When it comes time to stomp them, there'll be ZERO need to even consider the options of gentle and compassionate warfare that we, as a culture, have developed to release a population from oppression.
Everyone in those camps are guilty. We can go in old school and just lay the place to waste without hesitation or any of those "moderations" that put our soldiers at risk.

Only the truely simple and/or malicious can be sucked into believing that just because a group of human garbage had an election that they should automatically be treated as good and proper.

Of course, there are those that like to play the game of "see!?! it didnt work there so it wont work anywhere! bush=nazi! america=the real terrorist! blood for oil!! and all the other deep thoughts that vomit from the mouth of the idiocracy.

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closely resembles the Nazi's and some of the things I saw in Somalia. They'd stop a bus and pull off any male above 13 and send them off to the front. If you argued they'd shoot you.
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Re: Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

I have no problem with Hamas in power. I don't want to have anything to do with them but that's democracy. I don't support my government having anything to do with them either. That includes giving foreign aid money to a terrorist government. I know the Israelis won't have anything to do with them. It is my hope that all of the Western world won't have anything to do with theim either. That way all of Hamas' "free money" will be cut off and they will have to serve their citizens as a real government does. When they fail, another government will come to power. Even if that government is friendly to the West I still won't want to have anything to do with them. I hold "the Palestinian people" as a bastard group of people with no real country of origin. (find me a map with a nation-state nammed Palestine on it)

If the majority of the world refuses to continue to donate foreign aid money to these fucks it'll all work out.

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Re: Should the Israelis and the wider international community negotiate with Hamas?

Yeah, well Hitler was elected too... and some tried to appease him... and we all know how that turned out... Anyone sense history starting to repeat itself? I have a feeling that this could get bloody, and the US is going to get dragged into it.

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Yeah, well Hitler was elected too... and some tried to appease him... and we all know how that turned out... Anyone sense history starting to repeat itself? I have a feeling that this could get bloody, and the US is going to get d